Saturday, August 27, 2011

Narrow at the hip

The short race I have (8k) is three weeks from today.  By then I will have done 8-9 track workouts.  I decided against any interval work simply because I felt shorter 3200m and 5k efforts would have more bang for the buck.  I have put myself in position as coach, which means I need to look objectively at what I am trying to do.  I am recognizing as the runner I want constantly improvement to reinforce my confidence.  In speaking with Brother Grub (legendary mentor) it appears I have fell into a trap of sorts.

For the first workout of 3200m I wanted to see what 6:00 pace felt like, or even if I could approach it.  The result was good so it seemed a 5k trial was in order to have a sense of what racing was like and gain confidence.  I felt I achieved this.  On the next 3200m I tried to run by feel and discovered I am not at 6:00 cruise pace.  After 1200m I discovered I had to go to race mode to get to 5:58 at 1600m and then I just blasted home in that mode for a final 1600m of 5:49.  It was work, though I appeared to recover fine.

The plan was to run the next 5k better than the last one and this is my dilemma.  I don't think I'm rested enough to do this (that's fine, ran 10 yesterday) so I have to step in and tell myself a good tempo effort is in order.  Otherwise, I may start doubting.

Why is this?  What's to doubt?  On my second track effort I averaged 5:56 for a 5k, alone and unrested.  I need to build on what I have and work with it.  I'll do another 5k trial, but when I start cutting back and when it feels right.  I should be smart enough to figure this out, but you have to talk to other people sometimes to see the light.  I'm not 30 anymore.  Heck, I'm not 40 anymore.  I can use the 3200m efforts to simulate faster running and hopefully in this short period at least get to where the first half of the 8k can be done at cruising speed.  All I have right now is race mode to hit 6:00 or better.  I have to find a way to get to cruising speed, because right now I am not quite able to push from the start in pure race mode and break 30:00.  I don't have a lot of time, but I also am not going to do it in 1-2 workouts like the runner part of me wants to do.  The mind remembers too much from the past, while the body is missing a couple tools from the original set.

This short excursion back to the other side is fun, but it does remind me how hard it is to race well over short distances.  I would recommend everyone do the trip, but think hard about how long you pack for.  Going back to racing for time is a challenge.  You get nervous and anxious.  It takes you back a few years.  In all honesty, you want to beat people, but you have to do it for you and not someone else.  I guess that's what has made ultra running the better long term option for me.

Tuesday, August 23, 2011

On the good ship Venus

Trying to beam on.  Got in 1.5 hours Monday and same today.  Hit the track for my 3200m trial.  Tried not to look at watch and after 2-3 laps discovered I was lagging.  First 1600m in 5:58 and final one in 5:49 for a 11:47.  Heck, I'll take it.  Trying to run a bit under load.  Over at Mom-In-laws doing odd jobs and tweaked my back.  Takes forever to loosen up, but just move forward. 

- Killed a bat over there and she called the bat people.  I didn't realize I had to take a half dozen calls, retrieve the bat, drop it off and wait for their call.  Not for me, but she may have been exposed.  Told her it might have bitten her in her sleep.  That's pretty settling for an 80 year old. 

- Been hobby jogging in the morning at a park.  Why do people feel they need to race me occasionally?  Anyone else get this?  They stop in like a half mile.

- Went to outdoor festival in Waukesha with the wife and dog.  Twice I told people she's snippy, so don't pet her....she's moody.  Of course they didn't listen.  She dosen't always snip at people, but you just don't reach down at my dog's head when she's tired.

- Three months ago I had a dog charge me.  No big deal...but the owners typically say, "He won't bite you."  I said, "That's what the last 17 people said before I had to kick their dog in the face."  You don't really make friends that way.  I wasn't worried about the dog.  People get out in big parks and figure no else goes there so the leash law doesn't apply to me.  See it all the time in big parks...that have two dog parks in the park.

- On a positive note, I have found the people around here are pretty curtious when in comes to runners and bikers.  I give them the big wave and grin which they enjoy. 

I can't wait to get to work tomorrow!

Saturday, August 20, 2011

Twin powers unite!

Well, I put in my first 5k on the track today.  Was hoping to hold 6:00 pace every 1600m.  Splits were 5:58, 5:57, 5:53 and :38 for last 200m for a 18:26 result.  I'd say the chances of breaking 30 at Al's is pretty solid.   Four weeks to go.

Boy, I don't read much in the way of books any more.  The last book I read was about 3 months ago.  It was a Mitch Albom book my wife had read.  Knew him from the Sports Reporters so I read it.  I think it was "The Five People You'll Meet in Heaven," but don't quote me on that.  I think I'm above average in just putzing around, so perhaps retirement will fit me.  I really don't watch much TV except for Sports center in the early AM over as much coffee as I can drink in 40 minutes.  It's 50/50 blend, so I have that going for me.

I love sandwiches.

My wife ordered a movie a while back called "Taken."  I actually enjoyed it.

I'm quazi planning to attend the College Baseball World Series next year in Lincoln.

The fastest guy I think that ever roamed the planet was Harvey Glance.

Michael Carter holds the HS record in the shot put.  His daughter Michelle hold the same HS record for girls.

One pill makes makes you larger (Fred) and one pill males you small (Barney).

Green is my favorite color and Lammers had a BOSS pair of green shoes on last week at Lapham Peak.

I love running on the track, but hate intervals.

I are an Alumni of Slippery Rock University 83'.

My favorite bumper sticker of all times was "If you don't like Hank Williams you can kiss my a$$."

The biggest ah-oh comment I heard was when my buddy challenged a crowd of mad people with, "Big guys in twos, little guys in bunches."

I lost interest in professional wrestling at about age 25-26. 

Thursday, August 18, 2011

Someone yelled

Out at Lapham Peak last night.  Another nice summer crowd.  I know the loop is only 6.7 miles, but I always get worked on the hills.  Last week I was cruising down them with Tony and this week I was barely hanging on to Brother Grub who was hobby jogging down them.  Adam and Katie spent their last time with us before moving to New Hampshire.  The good news is they bought pizza.  Adam is coming back for Ice Age, so that will be cool.

I really have no desire to run a 50k anymore.  Outside of John Dick which is a good winter trainer (I always peak at the weather before going out there) nothing motivates me to run one.  Yes, the spur of the moment local ones for fun I'll do, but racing one isn't one my list.  Since 100 milers aren't really on the list either I guess I'm primarily a 50 mile guy.  Seems like a fair test of running.

I really didn't fire up the grill much this summer.  We don't get really motivated to do supper around here much.  When the kids are out of school we lose the motivation to keep a schedule.  Heck, we are lucky to have everyone at home at the same time.  The Lapham supper is chips, fruit, and cookies.  Angela brought cherries last night the size of golf balls.

Having a tough time getting motivated to run this evening.  Think I'll wait to about 7 PM and go for an easy hour.  Try and get two easy runs in tomorrow and then hit the track Saturday for a 5000m time trial.  Thinking I'll try and hold 6:00 pace.  Mentally I start to coast the second mile, so I'll have to make a point to stay focused.  It will be hard...something I don't embrace much anymore.  I could compromise and do 6:10 - 6:15 and call it a good workout (which could happen), but with Al's on September 17th I probably am better served to try an uncut the bomb.

I'm not going up to Superior.  Not motivated to drive to PA and then come home and leave the next day to go to Northern MN.  There will be another time.  Plus the family does occasionally like me to be around.

I've never watched the movie Citizen Kane.  I'm going to have to do that.  Mallach stated he has watched Cool Hand Luke, "20 - 25 times."  Me too.  I love that movie.  Jeremiah Johnson is way up there as well.  I'm primarily a Sports Center guy...though the football coverage is a bit much.  Never a huge NBA fan, I must admit I enjoy this more highlight wise than football.  I never grew up around soccer, but will admit here publicly that I followed the US Women's team at the World Cup.  I get the feeling they lost to Japan simply because that was the only game I didn't get to watch.

Well, the new crossword for the day is waiting for me.  I'm not particularly good at them, but they are fun.  Robert Wehner is good at them.  I've noticed over the years some clues never change.  Famous Giant ball player.  Giant who roamed the Polo grounds.  OTT.  Thirty years of this stuff.  Other answers I see a lot are ARIA, ARA, ERRED, EEL, and OSS.  I get killed on new TV names or singers.  Now if they asked who was the hair stylist in the credits for Leave it to Beaver, everyone knows that is Florence Bush.

Tuesday, August 16, 2011

Head in shade

Seven on Monday...kinda waxed.  Ran 36 minutes this morning and went to the Carroll College track in the PM.  I did a 3200m trial, which I was hoping for 6:00 splits.  Was confident I could pull at least 6:10 pace, but really was seeing what happened.  First 1600m was 6:01 and I knew I had some gas, so I did the last 1600m in 5:50.  Pretty good sign that sub 30:00 at Al's is at least feasible.  There comes a point in races like these that two things develop.  I have to work on extending the length of the race I can cruise at 6:00 pace or better.  The last part is how far out can I go ballistic at.  Right now it's about 800 meters, but I need to get to about 2000 meters.  At some point in time you just throw down and right now I can't.  Hopefully, I can become sharpened enough to run the first 4 miles at 6:00 and launch from there.  In 2003 I was able to hold 5:30 pace through 4 (22:00 flat) and pull a 5:03 the last .97 miles. was only one workout of 3200 meters and already I'm speculating.  I'll do another track session on Saturday.  Maybe do 8000 meters and see how she goes.  I just run what feels right and look for a hot spot.

The hardest thing about getting older is how far you have to run before you feel okay.  If I was to decide if I felt like running by feel, then I'd be back to running 4 times a week.  I feel decent after the workout.  Loose, very little aches and pains, etc.  However, after a few hours or sleeping over night you get all beat-up.  It's like that old Gregory Peck line, "We've made other plans and they don't include you."

Did anyone watch the Secretariat Youtube piece on Belmont Stakes?

Sunday, August 14, 2011

Clothed in crinoline

Finished the week with an easy 2:12 on trails.  Got in 60 miles for the week.  Felt pretty well, with the exception that it takes me a couple miles now-a-days to get the kinks out.  I'll shoot for similar results next week with a couple short fast runs.  I'd like to go for a sub 30:00 at the 8k on 9/17.  Seems like I should race a couple other short ones, but they get harder to find late in the season.

Soon Fall and Winter will be here.  I'll run John Dick 50k in early February and then get ready for Ice Age in May.  That seems so far from now.  I'm off tomorrow, so I'll play Mr. Handyman around home, get a couple runs in, and hopefully go fishing later in the day.

Running faster seems so much easier than training for ultras.  I mean, I seem to run more miles when running shorter distances.  The long runs just seem to wax me.  Getting faster doesn't seem to be the issue, it's that the racing is very painful.  I have not determined why running 50 miles seems more appealing than racing shorter distances.  I mean that is a big effort as well, but it must be the sense of accomplishment and the cool folks one meets.

My plan is to run a lot of shorter runs during the week and perhaps a total of 25 miles on the weekend.  If needed, I can lump the 25 in one run for the weekend to get ultra ready.  This seems to make me stronger and recovery is easier.  The bonus is more miles.  I don't struggle with the fact that 50 miles is a long way.  I've ran enough ultras to get past that.  I like to run, but at the same time running 10-11 times a week can become tedious.

I've been asked to take up Tennis.  The rest of the family plays, but I never have.  How hard could it be?  I'm afraid I'll snap in half.

Saturday, August 13, 2011

Put your fingers down my throat

Ran 4.5 easy today.  I was bushed.  My 8:00 AM guys slept in.  High Schoolers...go figure.  No matter, I get to run with a legend tomorrow. Three time Ice Age winner and three time representative of Team USA in the World Cup...Clement Grum.  I actually got to know Clem from our epic battles at Al's Run in the early 00's.  We finished back to back out of 3,000 runners two years in a row.  I've been getting together with Clem (and Andy Klapperich) about every Sunday AM we cam make it since 2003.  The three of us completed a double crossing of the Grand Canyon in October, 2009.  Definately one of my top 5 running experiences.

I was out back watering the dog last night and looked up at the stars.  It reminded me of looking up back around 1997 when Halley's Comet was visible.  I think it was a group of 20+ people in California who believed a space ship was trailing the Comet and was on its way to picking them up.  I guess it was essential to castrate yourself and oh by-the-way you need to be dead to get aboard.  Now I don't understand how you come to this conclusion, but the thing that really puzzled me was you had to have a roll of quarters with you.  The thinking was you would need these for possible transportation beyond where you were going.  Don't you think you might have questioned this at least?  Spaceship - check.  Castration - check.  End life - check.  Bring quarters along - hold up braaaah. 

So I did sign-up for Al's Run 8k today.  I haven't raced anything shorter than a marathon since Al's Run in 2008.  It should be interesting.  Not sure about what's after.  I'm fairly content to just train/run, but turning 50 next month does invoke one to embrace a new age group. 

I heard my Pirates set the major league record to go from first place to 10 games out the fastest.  Less than 2 weeks.  I watched them lose to the Brewers today 1-0.  In the 9th the lead off guy gets a triple and they end up stranding him.  Bummer dude.

Thinking I'll take Monday off and go fishing in the AM.  I'll see if the boys want to go, but either way I'm out there. 

Looks like a big contingent going up to Superior.  At least 20 people, so that's a crowd.  That's my birthday weekend and I will also be home in PA that week.  Still not 100% I can make it to Superior to spectate/crew/help.

Friday, August 12, 2011

A gentle bossa nova

Ran 8 again today.  A flatter 4 mile out and back in 55:56 (29:15 / 26:41).  Running down to the high school tomorrow and running with a couple guys from the cross-country team.  Their official practice starts Monday. 

I am buzzing up a Hungry Man TV dinner right now.  Went with the looks real good on the picture.  Are they still called TV dinners?  That's what I call them.  I never remember having these as a kid.  I guess you get used to real food.  I bought some fruit slices for dessert, except these don't have any of the black ones which dominate.  No, I am not a single man at home.  My wife went to the state fair with a friend.  My son went to the state fair with his compadre.  My daughter went to George Webb's to eat because her buddy started there as a waitress.  This dinner claims I'm getting a pound of food.  A friend and I decided about 30 years ago that the potato was about the hardest food to screw up.  You could basically take a crap on it, clean it, and still eat it.  There aren't many foods you can pull that off with.

A couple weeks ago at Church they had donut holes out between services.  I picked one up for grins, flicked it 10 - 12 feet up and the air and caught it in my mouth and ate it.  The kids thought it was luck, but people in the know realize I went to college.  Every once in a while I pull off cool stuff like that.  I'd never show them quarters...though I have heard a couple guys...maybe even one lass claim they completely dominated at the craft.  I know I passed enough cash to buy a recliner.

I've been bringing up my supply of snuff from Illinois, "so I ain't got no beef against them Illinese".  It is a $1.80 a can cheaper than here.  Talk about taking it on the chin here in Wisconsin.  And Mallach, I know it's a double negative, but your not here to correct me now.  I just popped a rub in so the fruit slices can wait until tomorrow.  When I was a kid we used to call it a pinch, rub, bone, dip, chew etc.  But my all-time favorite was an "Earl."  The Andy Griffith show was a rerun favorite and the guy who did the music score was Earl Hagen.  We chewed Copenhagen so it was a natural fit.

If anyone knows anything about me it is that I ask people where they are from, grew-up, or went to HS/College.  I find it interesting and it helps me connect people.  Last week I had a guy call to ask if I needed assistance learning how to navigate a new job tracking program.  I said sure, but have to call you back.  I did and when the chick answered the phone she sounded like she was from Pittsburgh.  When he got on I asked if they were in Pittsburgh and he said yes.  "Where did you grow up I said."  He said New Castle which is a good hour+ plus from the Burg.  Sure enough, we went to the same little HS (Laurel).  He even ran cross-country.  He's going to check if the 2-mile relay record I help set in 78' still stands...which to my knowledge does because my buddy updates me monthly during track season.  I know...let it go.

Thursday, August 11, 2011

Slowly blow your little mind

It was just getting real good last night and it had to end.  Talk about 24 hour runs...500 milers.  Different looks at it, non-agreement, personal experience, conjecture, mastering the time continuum, etc.  That's kind of when it's best.  Get a taste and leave room for later.  I think the looming Sawtooth race for some had us talking about being out there.  I knew I wasn't ready.  Craig had some real interesting comments that made me think.  Craig ran 22 blue loops at Nordic last year in 58 hours and change with a broken foot.  That's just over 200 miles.  Sometimes it's best to just listen.

At one time I thought I might like to venture once into that rhealm.  Perhaps it would be the last great adventure for me.  That's all I'm going to say about that for now.

I opted to do 8 miles this evening on a hilly road out and back.  Ran 30:51 out and returned in 27:54.  T'was a bit of work, but my decision to race Al's Run 8k on September 17th left me thinking I should start picking it up a bit.  I think today I decided I'll have my own little weekly race series.  Racing one's self into shape works pretty fairly even if my only competitor is the watch.

I looked up Ken Brett on Wikipedia recently to confirm what I though I remembered.  As a pitcher, he hit a home run in 4 consecutive starts as a pitcher.  That's impressive, but not as good as Rick Wise throwing a no-hitter and hitting 2 homers in the same game.  Believe both did it for Philly in the early 70s.

If you get the chance, go on youtube and watch part 2 of the Sports Century series on Secretariat.  It covers the Belmont Stakes race where he wins by 31 lengths.  Search - Secretariat Sports Century Belmont.  "Secretariat is a tremendous machine!"  It will fire you up.  Trust me on this, it is worth the view.

Tuesday, August 9, 2011

The brakes are good, the tires are fair

Ran 3.4 with Cookie this morning in an easy fashion.  I rocked the treadmill in the PM, but it does most of the running for you.  I mainly go because...I'm paying for it.

I crunched a few numbers and how does this look for a weekly program to work up to:

Mon = 5 AM, 5 PM
Tue = 5 AM, 5 PM
Wed = 5AM, 10 PM
Thu = 5 AM, 5 PM
Fri = 5 AM, 5 PM
Sat = 17 AM
Sun = 8 AM

That's 80 a week the easy way.  One could lump the weekend runs together for a 25 miler and take Sunday off for ultras.  Always easier with the No. 2 lead pencil than actually doing it.

In life, I've came to the conclusion people are going to be as happy as they want to be.  Like Strothers Martin said in Cool Hand Luke, "Some men, you just can't reach."  It's good to be an encourager, but don't as my old boss used to say, "let the bastards grind you down."  Why get bent out of shape concerning things you have little control off.  My Dad might have said it best.  "When I was in the Army, I knew two things were going to happen.  I was going to get a cup of coffee and I was going to get my ass chewed."  Sound wisdom.

Out on the road tomorrow making sales calls and seeing people.  Man I love these days.  Reminds me of Rocky and Bullwinkle.  "Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat."  That about explains it.  Looking for opportunity, deciding if I'll bull rush people or use the swim move.  I enjoy talking to people.  "What's it look like out there."  "Where you from."  "I hear up on the Muscle Shoal their catchin' beaver big as bobcat."  Stuff like that.  Start thinking about lunch at 10 AM.  Listening to Classic Vinyl on XM radio.  Good times.  I have my list ready for tomorrow.  I have eleven things planned, my 10 +1 plan.  Stretch goals are good. 

Monday, August 8, 2011

With wicked Felina

Started running again today.  Took the dog out for 30 minutes in AM and managed another 38 minutes in the PM.  Started push-ups/sit-ups easily.  Not too shabby.  See how tomorrow goes with same routine.  Going to try some doubles again.  Good way to get mileage; if for nothing else than to watch the miles pile up in the log book.

I am going to see about going up to Superior and not running.  I will have to start making plans if that's going to happen.  Might be cool to watch people run and hopefully help out in the 100 somehow...anything than just stand around.

Back in about 78' I was running out in Harrisburg, PA because we where at the state fair.  A truck had lost a box (it was early AM) and the contents were broke upon.  Inside were boxes of cigars.  Imagen my Dad's delite when I came back with three unopened boxes.  He said, "You didn't see any peanuts did you."  Classic.

I miss my Dad.  He came to all the races and typically when they showed the winner in the newspaper crossing the finish line you'd see my Dad somewhere in there wearing his C&K Coal Company hat.  I still have that beaten up thing downstairs and wear it on occasion.

A hat collector from way back, my siblings and I made a point to ask for hats everywhere we went, much to the dismay of his wife.  It was a simple process.  If you told someone your Dad collected hats you almost always got one.  Of course he made up whoppers telling people how he secured them.  I got him a military ball hat from the Navy from McMurdo Station in the South Pole.  Real cool dark navy blue with the bold gold lettering.  He'd tell people he had a son down there testing at what temperature oil freezed in water.  I saw a CBS sports crew one time wearing hats with the same dark navy blue backing and and bold gold lettering which said CBS Sports.  I laid the line on him and he gave it to me.  My Dad loved that hat.  It was always like Christmas when I went to visit him because I brought a cache' of hats.

About every 17 years up there the locust would they do.  It's cyclical.  There pretty meaty.  My Dad got a kick out of watching his two full grow sons out on the back forty swinging wiffle ball bats for hours knocking them out of the park.

Saturday, August 6, 2011

Hats and Hooters

It's been nice not running.  However, I'm at the point that something is missing so I'll have to uncut the bomb.  T'would be nice to plan a fall ultra, but maybe I should train first.  I might have to get back to some push-up and sit-ups.  I found even a 100 each about everyday seems to do the trick.  Otherwise it feels like a seperate training element.

I received a far amount of comments about my poor shoe selection.  When Bunk starts offering advice I figure it's time to listen.  Going to check into these Adidizero (?) he recommended.  What the heck, it couldn't hurt.


- The largest haul of coons I ever had in one day of trapping was 3.  Not bad for 6 sets.  I used to set 9 to 12, but you have to check them everyday and you learn quality over quantity.  I learned a lot doing that as a kid.

- My Dad, Mom, Wife, Son, Daughter, Brother, and Sister all had/have spring birthdays.

- I've seen more Pittsburgh Pirate ball hats this year than ever.  We just kind of nod at each other and move on.

- I've never been to a regular season NBA game, but my son managed to get to 4 last year.

- I once ran (?) a 5k to intentionally get last.  I will never do that again.

- In the late 70s and early 80s we used to run the International Peace Race 25K in Youngstown, Ohio (very competitive Shorter, Rodgers, Myers, etc.) as long as we could at the front.  They had 3 TV stations we could get at home.  "Look at me! Look at me!"  My fastest 10M (57:30) and 20K (1:11:58)
came from those races.

- I got into Grad School only because the Dean was a Slippery Rock alumni.  I was on a 2 class probation until I proved I could get the grades.  I was the top graduate with a 3.93 QPA.  I had one B which was in Computer Science.  I still struggle a bit with computers.

- The smartest runner I ever knew was Paul Paikowski.  He only broke 18 in a 5k once (17:57) on a downhill course, but managed a 2:50 twice in the marathon.  Once at Lakefront and once at Boston.  I also saw him run a 50k at Ice Age in terrible conditions in 3:57 and did his first 50M there in 7:43.  He plays the guitar now, but I still talk to him about training.

- I do the laundry and grocery shopping at home, but rarely vaccum or mow the grass.

- Miller High Life in bottles has to be the best house beer for the money.  $9.99 for an 18 pack is unconscious.

As far as the title goes; we're going to break those out when Josie comes home.

Thursday, August 4, 2011

Just like a pasta fagiole...

...It's Amore.

But not just after finishing Voyageur.  That comes a few days later.  I swore that was it for me, but I will be back.  Bunk told me you just get the urge to figure it out...which apparantly I figured it out worse than last year.  I'll be the first to admit I wasn't in great shape, but I was in good enough shape to be around 9:30, or so I thought.  Skipping the details, I ran less beat up this year, felt somewhat better and still ran 43 minutes slower.

I decided today everything is out.  No Sawtooth.  No Al's run.  Take it easy this month, use some vacation, fish for northern, do a couple home projects, and maybe trek out to the Mississippi River for some more fishing.  Maybe run 50 minutes a day and go longer on weekends if up to it.  Maybe do a late year ultra, I'm tired right now. 

I read other running blogs occasionally and I don't think too much about the science of the whole thing.  I understand it, but I only think about the running part when I'm running.  Sure, I think about what I want to do, but I don't do it so why bother.  I guess the only run I will continue to want to do well at is Ice Age.  Being 50 there next year means I have to learn to strap it on a bit differently.  I think a reasonable stretch goal is sub 7:30...there I said it for the 3 people who read this blog.

I also want to do a hundred sometime.  Not for time.  Just get in decent shape and go do one.  I'd also like to consider the Laurel Highlands race of 70.5 miles in PA soon.  That's in June and not far from back home.  Maybe Burning River or Oil Creek for a 100?  Close to back home, so some family might come out.  I still really enjoy running, but have figured I don't have the energy for racing very well often get that and that's okay.

Someone asked what I'd really like to do.  That's a good question because I don't know.  Honestly, Sawtooth intrigues me.  I'd also like to try a mountain 100 sometime...for fun.  I'd like to get back to 70 a week someday...this 40-50 doesn't quite cut it.